A very informative video by Dr.David Duke , it's a shame most Americans don't know about these attacks.
Please visit his website.
Tuesday, March 30, 2010
Israeli Terrorism Against America
A very informative video by Dr.David Duke , it's a shame most Americans don't know about these attacks.
Monday, March 22, 2010
Taking Jews and Christians As Friends , Answering The "Ex-Devout Sura 5 Muslim"
By Chaud
Fake Ex-Muslim Dr.Ergun Caner in one of his videos claims that he was a "Sura 5 Muslim" who never took Jews and Christians as friends , I have never heard of "Sura 5 Muslim" nor have I ever met one because no such Muslim exists , no Muslim who knows his/her religion understands the verse quoted from Sura 5 to mean what this Fake and many other critics of Islam want it to mean, each and everyone of them bases this false claim over a mistranslation of an Arabic word.
Sura 5 Verse 51
[يَـٰٓأَيُّہَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ لَا تَتَّخِذُواْ ٱلۡيَہُودَ وَٱلنَّصَـٰرَىٰٓ أَوۡلِيَآءَۘ بَعۡضُہُمۡ أَوۡلِيَآءُ بَعۡضٍ۬ۚ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمۡ فَإِنَّهُ ۥ مِنۡہُمۡۗ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَا يَهۡدِى ٱلۡقَوۡمَ ٱلظَّـٰلِمِينَ]
[O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.]
The Arabic word in red "AWLIYA" ( أَوۡلِيَآءَۘ ) singular "Wali" (ولي) is associated with different meanings like alliance , guardianship , friendship , it can also mean king , sovereign , chief and many other different meanings according to the context its being used. (Source)
Unfortunately some translations of the Quran uses the word "friends" , but in the context of that verse the best translation is "guardian" or "allies" not "friends".
The Quran uses the word "Wali" (ولي) meaning "protection and guardianship" in regards to Allah (swt) in Sura 2 verse 257 and in Sura 3 verse 122 .
Other uses in the Quran include Sura 17:33 which deals with taking innocent lives , it uses the word "Wali"and translated as "authority" .
It's clear now that the word "Wali" (ولي) has a broad meaning , to determine which meaning should be used and understood we must go back to the historical context.
Dr.Muzammil Siddiqi writes in regard to the historical context :
"It is obvious that Jews patronize the Jews and Christians patronize the Christians , so why not Muslims patronize Muslims and support their own people . This verse is not telling us to be against Jews or Christians , but it is telling is that we should take care of our own people and we must support each other. In his Tafsir , Imam Ibn Kathir has mentioned that some scholars say that this verse was revealed after the battle of Uhud when Muslims had to set back . At that time , a Muslim from Madina said "I am going to live with the Jews so I shall be safe in case another attack comes on Madina ." , and another said "I am going to live with Christians so I shall be safe in case another attack comes on Madina" . So Allah (swt) revealed this verse reminding the believers that they should not seek the protection from others , but should protect each other (See Ibn Kathir , Al-Tafsir , Vol 2 page 68) "
The historical context makes it clear that the word "AWLIYA" ( أَوۡلِيَآءَۘ ) does not mean "friends" , it means "guardians" or "allies" .
Muhammad Asad writes :
"As regards the meaning of the "alliance" referred to here , which explains the reference to a believer's loss of his moral identity if he imitates the way of life of, or-in Quranic terminology-"allies himself" with, non-Muslims. However, as has been made abundantly clear in 60: 7-9 (and implied in verse 57 of this Surah), this prohibition of a "moral alliance" with non-Muslims does not constitute an injunction against normal, friendly relations with such of them as are well-disposed towards Muslims. It should be borne in mind that the term wall has several shades of meaning: "ally", "friend", "helper", "protector", etc. The choice of the particular term - and sometimes a -combination of two terms-is always dependent on the context." (Asad, The Message of the Quran)
Imam Al-Qurtubi states in his commentary on Sura 5 verse 51 :
One explanation is that this is referring to the hypocrites : 'Oh ye who believe outwardly' , and they used to assist the polytheists and tell them about the secrets of the Muslims. As-Suddi said that this verse came down during the Battle of Uhud when Muslims were afraid that they were going to lose the battle and wanted to ally themselves with the Jews and Christians. (Source)
Since I am answering the "Ex-Sura 5 Muslim" I won't go into the rest of the verses dealing with the topic of alliance and friendship in Quran , by showing that Sura 5 itself does not teach that Muslims should not take Jews and Christians as friends , I believe this is satisfactory.
Islam makes it clear that friendship and good relations with Christians and Jews (in fact with all man-kind) is allowed and advocated , we should co-exist peacefully , but we should not take them as close companions , allies or guardians if it leads away from the path of Islam or to moral degeneration , and such a close companionship is recommended if by one's moral character you are leading your friend to the path of Islam , what I find hilarious about the claim Dr.Caner made is that the bible teaches the exact same thing , see here.
I recommend the reader to check out this short video dealing with this misconception.
Friday, March 12, 2010
Western Diplomats Walk Out On Ahmadinejad Speech On Racism
I wonder why they left ? I guess the reason is obvious.
Thursday, March 11, 2010
Bridges' official response to screening the Islamophobic film Fitna in the British House of lords
Taken from Bridges Foundation , original post over here.
“Fitnah is worse than killing” Exposing Wildes’ manipulation of the Quran
Sometimes the west fall into the trap of defaming Islam for political reasons, because they are trying to get at a group of people who happened to be Muslims, so they defame and attack the whole religion to get at this small group of people.
This article is an attempt to prove to the reader that Geert Wilders abused his audience’s ignorance of the Arabic language to inject his own convoluted misinformation about Islam and the Quran, while pretending to be telling the truth, and I want to rely on logic and evidence, I want not to appeal to emotions but rather to appeal to the reader’s sense of logic, I want the statements that I make to be justified on the basis of sound logic.
What is the meaning of Fitnah in Arabic? The Quran says: “Fitnah is greater than killing”(Quran 2:217)
Fitnah means oppression in religion, i.e. persecution of so called “heretics”. And I strongly believe that the goal behind producing such film is “Fitnah” or causing oppression in religion for a group of people who represent more than 20% of the population of this world.
Scriptures have always been abused by both followers and deniers, we can not then lay blame and rebuke only on Muslims who misunderstand or misrepresent the Quran but we should also lay similar blame and rebuke on those who manipulate the Quran and abuse it from among non Muslims.
In this article I will prove to you that the producer of FITNAH is all the time attempting to deceive his audience pushing them to oppress Muslims in their religion. In the beginning he used the verse 8:60 presenting it as a verse promoting terrorism. He played the verse using the background of 9/11 horrific scenes while highlighting the words “strike terror in the hearts of the enemies”
The entire verse reads:
“Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but
whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.”
But you know what? Wilders used a magical ON/OFF switch of the subtitles, starting the translation at a certain point and ends it at another in a way that gives a completely different meaning than that meant by the Quran.
“Prepare for them whatever force and calvary you are able of gathering, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies,” And all of a sudden he stopped, he stopped the translation alone, while the verse continues in Arabic saying “and others besides them, whom ye do not know, but whom Allah doth know.”
Did he do that on purpose by not showing “and others besides them, whom ye may not know”?? Now let me ask: how can someone fight people whom he doesn’t know as the verse states?? This verse actually encourages Muslims to have a strong army in order to avoid war rather than making war, to the enemy think twice before attacking them. The terror mentioned in the verse is striking fear of defeat in the heart of an enemy be known for Muslims or unknown for them, a fear that deters him from fighting Muslims.
But the producer intentionally took these words out of context, and he used bits and pieces to serve his goal and deceive his audience.
In the same vein, Muslims could also run horrific videos for innocent Muslim children killed after air raids in Iraq and in Afghanistan and play in the background this verse from the Bible
“Think not that I have come to send peace on the earth; I came not to send peace but a sword. For I have come to put a man against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law: And a
man will be hated by those of his house. (Mathew 10: 34-36)
Or the other verse where Jesus says:
“And as for those who were against me, who would not have me for their ruler, bring them here, and slay them before me.” (Luke 19:27)
But Muslims never did that, because it is very childish, to use the scriptures this way, scriptures should be dealt with from cover to cover, not by playing the cut & paste game to take words out of its context to defame and demonize the religion.
Wilders repeated same trick again with verse 47:4. He intentionally used bits and pieces, taking words out of context and not translating the whole Arabic verse which Arab audience can still hear in his film.
The verse was followed by the beheading of Kenneth Bigley, a British civilian who was slain in Iraq, which was condemned by all Muslim groups and scholars including the Muslim council of Britain. But of course this is something that he doesn’t mention in his film.
Again he used the verse in a way that encourages killings and beheadings of innocent people, the verse reads:
“So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.”
This verse, in fact, encourages Muslims to fight fiercely in war, but allows no killing of prisoners of war. The verse makes it clear that POWs should either be set free out of generosity or ransomed in exchange for Muslim POWs or for money to compensate war expenses.
But Wilders used the magical switch again, stopping the translation before the part that allows killing only during war. He again did not show the part that prevents killing prisoners by limiting the options of dealing with them after war as explained above.
He just mentioned it like that: “Therefore, when you meet the unbelievers, smite at their necks and when you have caused bloodbath among them bind a bond firmly on them” As if the Quran is telling Muslims to cut the necks of the unbelievers when they meet them in super markets not at war.
The question is why did Mr. Wilders translate a part of the verse and left the rest?
Was it intentionally to mislead the audience or unintentionally out of his ignorance?
Again and again the same thing happens with the words of Sheikh Aed Al-Qarny a renowned Muslim scholar, the Arabic speaking people can hear him saying in Wilders’ movie: “The real Jihad is that against the occupier , houses and youth will be sacrificed they will lose their heads in the path to victory”
But again Wilders is playing his dirty game, manipulating the translation, abusing the ON/OFF switch in his hand, he started the subtitles like that:
Houses and young men must be sacrificed. Throats must be slit and skulls must be shattered. This is the path to victory.
Of course ignoring the very first words that Arab speaking audience heard “The real Jihad is that against the occupier” And then the footage of a beheading, misleading his audience, by not translating for them the very first phrase “The real Jihad is that against the occupier”
I want to remind Europeans of when the Nazis occupied France and Poland and other countries, how were those people able to liberate their countries, ask the French they will tell you through "La resistance." Well, that is exactly what this scholar was saying “The real Jihad is that against the occupier” But deceiving the audience is Wilders’ main goal.
The film is also full of instigation against European Muslims by showing the bar graph starting with 54 Muslims in Netherlands in 1909 increasing to 1400 Muslims in 1960, then 450.000 in 1990, then 944.000 in 2004, then suddenly the graph jumps to 54 Million Muslims in Europe, from 54 individuals to 54 Million, but the 54 was the number in Holland alone while the 54 Millions is the number in Europe. Why didn’t he start the graph from the beginning with the number of European Muslims, which would have been in Millions, it is because he wants to shock the non Muslim audience and make them feel threatened in their countries.
Bringing a Muslim who refuses to practice adultery and homosexuality to show him as an example of a non integrating individual, is an insult to every Dutch. Does Wilders mean that every Dutch commits adultery and is a homosexual? Can’t a Dutch be loyal to his wife and be straight (feel inclined to the opposite sex)?
Wilders Said at the end of the film that in 1945 Nazism was defeated in Europe is inaccurate because someone like him is a parliamentarian in a European country.
The Quran states that the original sin is not an apple eaten from a tree, but rather the essence of racism that Satan showed when he refused to prostrate for Adam, saying to God: "I am better than him, u created me from fire and you created him from clay" Is it not the same as I am white and he is black, I am European and he is Arab, I am Arab and he is Indian.
But God expelled him out from paradise saying you can’t act as a racist here, which means that racists have no place in Paradise
Racism is the first sin and the biggest challenge that is challenging humanity today and the Quran dealt with it in the verse “Surely the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you” not the men or the whites or the Arabs or the Jews.
Now let me state the following remarks:
1-The people who are working to destroy this world on both sides are not taking one day off, so how can we?
2-They are scaring us from each other, making use of our IGNORANCE about each other
3-Therefore ignorance becomes our ENEMY
4-But No one learns unless he/she admits his/her ignorance and sense the need for learning and here comes the 1st Problem on the way of learning.
5-People don’t admit their ignorance because they think it is an insult, while actually ignorance is not LACK of INTELLIGENCE but rather LACK OF INFORMATION. I have no problem admitting my ignorance about Hinduism
6-The second problem on the road of learning, is learning from Who? If anyone wants to learn how a certain dish tastes, he should ask someone who tasted that dish, therefore it is unfair to learn about Islam from third parties, I assure you that unreliable sources have made Islam by far, the most misunderstood religion in the world.
As Muslims we have fanatics who hijacked Islam and gave it a bad name with their terrible actions, but at the same time there are Europeans who hijacked Europe and are giving it a bad name by their terrible actions.
Take Denmark as an example, 3 years ago, the word Denmark was a synonym for the words tolerance & peacefulness, but today few Danes gave it a bad name, today the word Denmark for more than 1.5 Billion Muslims means hatred and racism, even though most Danes are nice and welcoming people.
The question is: Are Dutch people going to allow few of them to hijack Netherlands and give it a bad name?
The problem is that at the time Muslims are facing their fanatics, debating with them all the time and clearing themselves from them, trying to build the bridges between Muslims and non-Muslims. Not many Europeans are doing the same to their fanatics.
This is the time to challenge the west do the same, clearing them selves from fanatics and racists, debating with them and building bridges from their side.
I am afraid the gap between Muslims and non Muslims is widening quickly, and sane people on both sides should start working together to bridge that gap before it is too late.
Sometimes the west fall into the trap of defaming Islam for political reasons, because they are trying to get at a group of people who happened to be Muslims, so they defame and attack the whole religion to get at this small group of people.
This article is an attempt to prove to the reader that Geert Wilders abused his audience’s ignorance of the Arabic language to inject his own convoluted misinformation about Islam and the Quran, while pretending to be telling the truth, and I want to rely on logic and evidence, I want not to appeal to emotions but rather to appeal to the reader’s sense of logic, I want the statements that I make to be justified on the basis of sound logic.
What is the meaning of Fitnah in Arabic? The Quran says: “Fitnah is greater than killing”(Quran 2:217)
Fitnah means oppression in religion, i.e. persecution of so called “heretics”. And I strongly believe that the goal behind producing such film is “Fitnah” or causing oppression in religion for a group of people who represent more than 20% of the population of this world.
Scriptures have always been abused by both followers and deniers, we can not then lay blame and rebuke only on Muslims who misunderstand or misrepresent the Quran but we should also lay similar blame and rebuke on those who manipulate the Quran and abuse it from among non Muslims.
In this article I will prove to you that the producer of FITNAH is all the time attempting to deceive his audience pushing them to oppress Muslims in their religion. In the beginning he used the verse 8:60 presenting it as a verse promoting terrorism. He played the verse using the background of 9/11 horrific scenes while highlighting the words “strike terror in the hearts of the enemies”
The entire verse reads:
“Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but
whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.”
But you know what? Wilders used a magical ON/OFF switch of the subtitles, starting the translation at a certain point and ends it at another in a way that gives a completely different meaning than that meant by the Quran.
“Prepare for them whatever force and calvary you are able of gathering, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies,” And all of a sudden he stopped, he stopped the translation alone, while the verse continues in Arabic saying “and others besides them, whom ye do not know, but whom Allah doth know.”
Did he do that on purpose by not showing “and others besides them, whom ye may not know”?? Now let me ask: how can someone fight people whom he doesn’t know as the verse states?? This verse actually encourages Muslims to have a strong army in order to avoid war rather than making war, to the enemy think twice before attacking them. The terror mentioned in the verse is striking fear of defeat in the heart of an enemy be known for Muslims or unknown for them, a fear that deters him from fighting Muslims.
But the producer intentionally took these words out of context, and he used bits and pieces to serve his goal and deceive his audience.
In the same vein, Muslims could also run horrific videos for innocent Muslim children killed after air raids in Iraq and in Afghanistan and play in the background this verse from the Bible
“Think not that I have come to send peace on the earth; I came not to send peace but a sword. For I have come to put a man against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law: And a
man will be hated by those of his house. (Mathew 10: 34-36)
Or the other verse where Jesus says:
“And as for those who were against me, who would not have me for their ruler, bring them here, and slay them before me.” (Luke 19:27)
But Muslims never did that, because it is very childish, to use the scriptures this way, scriptures should be dealt with from cover to cover, not by playing the cut & paste game to take words out of its context to defame and demonize the religion.
Wilders repeated same trick again with verse 47:4. He intentionally used bits and pieces, taking words out of context and not translating the whole Arabic verse which Arab audience can still hear in his film.
The verse was followed by the beheading of Kenneth Bigley, a British civilian who was slain in Iraq, which was condemned by all Muslim groups and scholars including the Muslim council of Britain. But of course this is something that he doesn’t mention in his film.
Again he used the verse in a way that encourages killings and beheadings of innocent people, the verse reads:
“So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.”
This verse, in fact, encourages Muslims to fight fiercely in war, but allows no killing of prisoners of war. The verse makes it clear that POWs should either be set free out of generosity or ransomed in exchange for Muslim POWs or for money to compensate war expenses.
But Wilders used the magical switch again, stopping the translation before the part that allows killing only during war. He again did not show the part that prevents killing prisoners by limiting the options of dealing with them after war as explained above.
He just mentioned it like that: “Therefore, when you meet the unbelievers, smite at their necks and when you have caused bloodbath among them bind a bond firmly on them” As if the Quran is telling Muslims to cut the necks of the unbelievers when they meet them in super markets not at war.
The question is why did Mr. Wilders translate a part of the verse and left the rest?
Was it intentionally to mislead the audience or unintentionally out of his ignorance?
Again and again the same thing happens with the words of Sheikh Aed Al-Qarny a renowned Muslim scholar, the Arabic speaking people can hear him saying in Wilders’ movie: “The real Jihad is that against the occupier , houses and youth will be sacrificed they will lose their heads in the path to victory”
But again Wilders is playing his dirty game, manipulating the translation, abusing the ON/OFF switch in his hand, he started the subtitles like that:
Houses and young men must be sacrificed. Throats must be slit and skulls must be shattered. This is the path to victory.
Of course ignoring the very first words that Arab speaking audience heard “The real Jihad is that against the occupier” And then the footage of a beheading, misleading his audience, by not translating for them the very first phrase “The real Jihad is that against the occupier”
I want to remind Europeans of when the Nazis occupied France and Poland and other countries, how were those people able to liberate their countries, ask the French they will tell you through "La resistance." Well, that is exactly what this scholar was saying “The real Jihad is that against the occupier” But deceiving the audience is Wilders’ main goal.
The film is also full of instigation against European Muslims by showing the bar graph starting with 54 Muslims in Netherlands in 1909 increasing to 1400 Muslims in 1960, then 450.000 in 1990, then 944.000 in 2004, then suddenly the graph jumps to 54 Million Muslims in Europe, from 54 individuals to 54 Million, but the 54 was the number in Holland alone while the 54 Millions is the number in Europe. Why didn’t he start the graph from the beginning with the number of European Muslims, which would have been in Millions, it is because he wants to shock the non Muslim audience and make them feel threatened in their countries.
Bringing a Muslim who refuses to practice adultery and homosexuality to show him as an example of a non integrating individual, is an insult to every Dutch. Does Wilders mean that every Dutch commits adultery and is a homosexual? Can’t a Dutch be loyal to his wife and be straight (feel inclined to the opposite sex)?
Wilders Said at the end of the film that in 1945 Nazism was defeated in Europe is inaccurate because someone like him is a parliamentarian in a European country.
The Quran states that the original sin is not an apple eaten from a tree, but rather the essence of racism that Satan showed when he refused to prostrate for Adam, saying to God: "I am better than him, u created me from fire and you created him from clay" Is it not the same as I am white and he is black, I am European and he is Arab, I am Arab and he is Indian.
But God expelled him out from paradise saying you can’t act as a racist here, which means that racists have no place in Paradise
Racism is the first sin and the biggest challenge that is challenging humanity today and the Quran dealt with it in the verse “Surely the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you” not the men or the whites or the Arabs or the Jews.
Now let me state the following remarks:
1-The people who are working to destroy this world on both sides are not taking one day off, so how can we?
2-They are scaring us from each other, making use of our IGNORANCE about each other
3-Therefore ignorance becomes our ENEMY
4-But No one learns unless he/she admits his/her ignorance and sense the need for learning and here comes the 1st Problem on the way of learning.
5-People don’t admit their ignorance because they think it is an insult, while actually ignorance is not LACK of INTELLIGENCE but rather LACK OF INFORMATION. I have no problem admitting my ignorance about Hinduism
6-The second problem on the road of learning, is learning from Who? If anyone wants to learn how a certain dish tastes, he should ask someone who tasted that dish, therefore it is unfair to learn about Islam from third parties, I assure you that unreliable sources have made Islam by far, the most misunderstood religion in the world.
As Muslims we have fanatics who hijacked Islam and gave it a bad name with their terrible actions, but at the same time there are Europeans who hijacked Europe and are giving it a bad name by their terrible actions.
Take Denmark as an example, 3 years ago, the word Denmark was a synonym for the words tolerance & peacefulness, but today few Danes gave it a bad name, today the word Denmark for more than 1.5 Billion Muslims means hatred and racism, even though most Danes are nice and welcoming people.
The question is: Are Dutch people going to allow few of them to hijack Netherlands and give it a bad name?
The problem is that at the time Muslims are facing their fanatics, debating with them all the time and clearing themselves from them, trying to build the bridges between Muslims and non-Muslims. Not many Europeans are doing the same to their fanatics.
This is the time to challenge the west do the same, clearing them selves from fanatics and racists, debating with them and building bridges from their side.
I am afraid the gap between Muslims and non Muslims is widening quickly, and sane people on both sides should start working together to bridge that gap before it is too late.
Friday, March 5, 2010
Arab Muslims Accepting Christianity ? What Christian Authorities Have To Say.
By Chaud
Note before reading : For the record I don't deny that some Arab Muslims become Christians , perhaps 1-5 every year , I do not deny that some converts to Christianity are truthful people , this paper is addressing the frauds only.
A Special Thanks to FakeExMuslims.com for posting my article here on their website , its a website that exposes mainly Dr.Ergun Caner and other fake converts like the ones I speak of in this article , please visit.
The never ending propaganda of evangelical Christians sinks into a new low , now they are claiming Arab Muslims are accepting Christianity in high numbers !
I was browsing youtube , and I discovered its full of videos trying to promote that ARABS are accepting Christianity ,like some of the convert testimonies on "A Muslim Journey To Hope" along with some news reports and random clips.
What we never often hear is what the Arab Christian religious authorities have to say about these "converts" , the following is a document written by a number of Egyptian pastors and priests , it was sent to Anba.Bishoy (Anba : is a high religious position in the Orthodox Coptic Church , equivalent to "bishop" in English. ) a well known authority in the Orthodox Coptic church in Eygpt , he serves as a pastor of several churches ,the secretary of the Holy Counsel and as the President of Saint Dumyanah monastery .
Note : It is claimed by evangelists and christian missionaries that Eygpt contains the highest number of converts to Christianity from Islam.
This is the document in Arabic (click to enlarge) :
What we never often hear is what the Arab Christian religious authorities have to say about these "converts" , the following is a document written by a number of Egyptian pastors and priests , it was sent to Anba.Bishoy (Anba : is a high religious position in the Orthodox Coptic Church , equivalent to "bishop" in English. ) a well known authority in the Orthodox Coptic church in Eygpt , he serves as a pastor of several churches ,the secretary of the Holy Counsel and as the President of Saint Dumyanah monastery .
Note : It is claimed by evangelists and christian missionaries that Eygpt contains the highest number of converts to Christianity from Islam.
This is the document in Arabic (click to enlarge) :
Translation (emphasis,underline and brackets are mine) :
" Respected Anba.Bishoy , Secretary of The Holy Counsel , Bishop of The Diocese of Dumyat and Al-Barari , President of The Saint Dumyanah monastery.
Grace and Peace ,Respected , we have already sent you many letters concerning the converts to Christianity some of our churches are accommodating and welcoming (into their care) , and we demanded your excellency to expel these converts from the care and protection of the Coptic Church for the following reasons :
- Some of them accepted Christianity for the sole reason of getting a baptism certificate in order to migrate elsewhere under the claim of religious oppression and persecution , we have sent you via fax a list of their names.
- Many of them want to make a high income (off their conversion) thus their acceptance of the Christianity is more like a job than accepting Christianity by faith and conviction , it's not a Church's obligation to support unemployed people who desire a better life without doing any work.
- The huge amount of trouble and shameful scandals these converts are involved in , like the involvement of the convert Carmen in a forbidden relation with Boula Fu'ad -The Pastor of The Bilina Church- and the involvement of Makaree Yunan -The Pasor of The Azbakiyeh Church- in a sexual relationship with the convert Zainab in which her husband the convert Muhammad Hijazi filmed them and blackmailed Father Makaree into paying him , a list of the amounts Muhammad Hijazi blackmailed has been sent to you .
Respected , the majority of these converts are of weak and hesitant natures , they are willing to sell their most precious for money ,there is no reason for the Church to protect or support them , there are other Christians who deserve our priority (attention) over these converts ,and I wish knowing that my wish will never come true , if his holiness the Pope can offer Shiek Al-Azhar an exchange of converts , we take one convert and they take ten.
Respected ,We hope you consider the issue of these converts seriously.Issued on Sep 6th 2008 . "
I got nothing more to add , even Christian authorities are noticing that many these "converts" are gold digging frauds with no morals and dignity .
Can evangelists and missionaries who make all kinds of crazy claims like "Jesus is doing miracles among the Arab Muslims" be as honest as these Coptic priests and church fathers are ? Only time will tell .
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